Category Archives: 2L

Being on the Other Side of the Table

Reputation

Does anyone else Google “how to answer interview questions?” Or “how to make a good first impression in an interview?” I have. Even when I am not interviewing for a job. I do this because I have often times been on the other side of the table . . .  the interviewer. I want to know which candidates are giving canned responses and what the internet is telling people will “land you the job of your dreams.”

In my past position, I interviewed numerous candidates to fill the vacancies for staff that held support functions in our office. Now, as an attorney, I have been asked to continue my role as a panel interviewer for incoming attorneys. I was blown away when they asked me to stay on in that role and I have enjoyed every minute of it.

Recently, I had the pleasure of sitting on an interview panel at my law school. During the part of the interview when the interviewer asks “so, do you have any questions for me?,” the last candidate of the day turned to me and asked:

I heard you are an alum of this law school. Can you tell me the one thing that you learned in law school that makes you successful in your job?

Without even thinking about it, I responded “protect your reputation, because you never know who will be sitting on the other side of the table.”

It’s more true than I think some new attorneys will ever have the ability to understand. I started to appreciate that fact more when I started interviewing other attorneys that I either knew of or heard of during law school.

I explained to the candidate that your reputation in the legal community starts in law school because you are sitting next to your future colleagues. People who you will work with for the rest of your career. How they know you in law school will be how they perceive you for the rest of the time you interact with them during your legal career.

I can think of two attorneys that I currently work  with as opposing counsel. I know how they played fast and loose in law school and I know they are probably flying by the seat of their pants in the cases we have together.  I can think of another currently unemployed attorney who reached out to me for a referral for a position in my office. I was very direct and explained to them that I did not know anything about their work ethic as they were rarely in class and failed to show up to our final group presentation. And for those reasons, I was not comfortable in making the referral. They probably cussed me out, deleted my email, and moved on to find the next person they could suck a referral out of. All I know is that I will never refer someone for a job in my office that I cannot personally see myself working alongside of.

So, to all of you thinking about going to law school, starting your 1L year, or even entering your 2L year, protect your reputation because you never know who will be across from you at that table when it comes time to interview for that job you really want.

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And There It Was…

… my name!

Thursday while at work I was a big ball of stress. The impending release of the bar pass names was obviously weighing on me. Getting no work done, my boss suggested I take a half day and enjoy some time with my family and relax on Friday while I waited for the bar results to be posted.

I went home, napped, made dinner, played with Little Bit and tried (unsuccessfully) to keep the thought of the results being posted out of my head. Friday was not much better. I did menial things around the house and played and napped some more. From 3:00-4:00 the hour just stalled. It was as if time stood still. LONGEST. HOUR. OF. MY. LIFE.

But then there we were. Refreshing the page where the results were to be posted. Little Bit sitting on the couch in the office with Alex and Aldo trying to weasel their way up to the couch as well. Mr. Mister was in control of the mouse-clicking, refreshing  every second and I stood behind him, knees shaking, biting my nails, waiting for the link to appear. Mr. Mister was refreshing the screen so quickly he missed it but I saw the blue hyperlink appear. I screamed “there is it! Stop! Stop! Stop! Click here.” And I pointed out to him what he had overlooked.

The attachment opened and my heart quickened. My knees started to get a little weak and suddenly the sound of Little Bit’s animal noise toys was muted from my ears and all I heard was my own pounding heartbeat. And there it was, my name.

I passed the state bar exam! I was ecstatic! Elated! Happy! I jumped up and down and hugged my husband and cried knowing that the stress of law school was behind me and I only had the joy of starting a new career in front of me.

For those starting bar prep for the July bar, put in the study time. It doesn’t have to be excessive, but it should be quality. I hope you get the same excitement I did when you see your name on a pass list.

Pass

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A Part-Time Schedule With a Full Time Gig

As I mentioned before, I decided to attend a law school that, in addition to the traditional schedule, offered a non-traditional schedule for those students who wanted to continue to work during the semester or who had other obligations during the day that prevented them from attending classes full-time during the day. ABA rules require that a student attending law school on a full-time basis work no more than 20 hours per week during the semester. However, on a part-time schedule that ABA rule does not apply. At my school, full time is considered 13 credit hours and above (4-6 classes) and part-time was considered between 9-12 credit hours; the equivalent of 3-4 classes.

If you take the traditional route you are slated to graduate in 3 years. The non-traditional flex schedule extends the graduation date by a year (4 years total). With that extra year comes the added expense of an additional year of living expenses, book costs, school fees, and tuition. Although tuition is slightly cheaper on the part-time schedule, it still adds on an additional few thousands of dollars a year for those who choose to attend part-time.

I decided to take the part-time route for many reasons. Money was a big concern and I also carried the health insurance for my husband and I. However, one of the most appealing aspects to keeping my job and going to school was that the school I wanted to attend had a campus a block away from my work. This afforded me the added opportunity of attending student functions during the day, an easier way of meeting on campus with professors and employers, and if there was ever anything I needed to get done during the day I could just walk across the street on my lunch hour. Win-win!

One thing that I would like to stress about taking the part-time route is that IT IS NOT THE EASY ROUTE! Professor do not “take it easier on you,” you aren’t assigned less readings, and you don’t have more time to do the work since you are taking less classes. On the contrary, you are stretched thin trying to juggle work and law school; the readings, assignments, networking, student functions, to say the least, are all inevitable in law school. Try getting all that done after work and on weekends and tell me that it’s easier than solely focusing on all those aspects of law school. IT’S NOT EASY! It damn near killed me a few times. But, the more work I put into it going in, the easier it got. So, although it was hell in the beginning, it gets easier. I think this is true regardless of whether you attend full-time or part-time.

My first year schedule looked a little something like this:

6:00 a.m.- Wake up and get ready

6:30 a.m. – Head out the door and off to work

6:45 a.m. – Pick up coffee and a bagel on the way because I most likely failed to pack my breakfast and lunch the night before

7:00 a.m.- Arrive at work and get crackin’ on emails and voicemails that I missed the day before and make a to-do list (have I mentioned that I love lists?!)

11:00 a.m.- Call in a lunch order because I failed to seize the opportunity to wake up early enough to pack a lunch and I need to save as much of my lunch hour to review my notes for that night’s class
(Note: This is a good tip! Spend at least 10 minute before each class reviewing the notes you have made regarding the readings assigned for that class.)

11:15- 12:15- Lunch and studying

5:00 p.m.- Clock out and head over to school

5:10 p.m.- Grab a coffee and finish reviewing notes or get a head start on another class’s readings

6:00 p.m.- 7:30 p.m. – Class #1 and then grab a quick snack from the vending machine (ugh,the evil vending machines of law school!)

7:45-9:15 p.m.- Class #2

9:20 p.m. – Whenever I have to start re-reading what I have just read in order to retain the information- head home and get to bed. Sometimes this is 10:30 p.m. and other times I last until as late as midnight.

        Wake-up and do it all over again….at least until Friday when I didn’t have classes. Friday night was a date night with my husband and the weekends were spent tucked away completing the readings for the following week. I, personally, felt more prepared having all of the readings done for the week finished on the weekends. It allowed me to feel more prepared for class discussions, to clean up my case briefs, and to fill out my outline where I felt I needed clarification on some issues. However, I had friends who would read the cases right before class and not make any notes and they were just as successful. Sometimes I made my weekend readings a little more interesting…to each their own.

Weekend reading

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