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Happy Birthday!

This blog is 2 years old and I have not done a damn thing with it!

So . . .  Happy Birthday, Mom’s Law Blog.  Here’s to another year of trying to figure it all out.

 

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Being on the Other Side of the Table

Reputation

Does anyone else Google “how to answer interview questions?” Or “how to make a good first impression in an interview?” I have. Even when I am not interviewing for a job. I do this because I have often times been on the other side of the table . . .  the interviewer. I want to know which candidates are giving canned responses and what the internet is telling people will “land you the job of your dreams.”

In my past position, I interviewed numerous candidates to fill the vacancies for staff that held support functions in our office. Now, as an attorney, I have been asked to continue my role as a panel interviewer for incoming attorneys. I was blown away when they asked me to stay on in that role and I have enjoyed every minute of it.

Recently, I had the pleasure of sitting on an interview panel at my law school. During the part of the interview when the interviewer asks “so, do you have any questions for me?,” the last candidate of the day turned to me and asked:

I heard you are an alum of this law school. Can you tell me the one thing that you learned in law school that makes you successful in your job?

Without even thinking about it, I responded “protect your reputation, because you never know who will be sitting on the other side of the table.”

It’s more true than I think some new attorneys will ever have the ability to understand. I started to appreciate that fact more when I started interviewing other attorneys that I either knew of or heard of during law school.

I explained to the candidate that your reputation in the legal community starts in law school because you are sitting next to your future colleagues. People who you will work with for the rest of your career. How they know you in law school will be how they perceive you for the rest of the time you interact with them during your legal career.

I can think of two attorneys that I currently work  with as opposing counsel. I know how they played fast and loose in law school and I know they are probably flying by the seat of their pants in the cases we have together.  I can think of another currently unemployed attorney who reached out to me for a referral for a position in my office. I was very direct and explained to them that I did not know anything about their work ethic as they were rarely in class and failed to show up to our final group presentation. And for those reasons, I was not comfortable in making the referral. They probably cussed me out, deleted my email, and moved on to find the next person they could suck a referral out of. All I know is that I will never refer someone for a job in my office that I cannot personally see myself working alongside of.

So, to all of you thinking about going to law school, starting your 1L year, or even entering your 2L year, protect your reputation because you never know who will be across from you at that table when it comes time to interview for that job you really want.

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THIS Was Worth the Wait!

Trees

Memorial Day weekend was a long weekend for me. I had 4 days off of work and decided to tack on an additional day for good measure. We headed out to Mr. Mister’s family cabin for some R & R. Boy did we need it! It was perfect to say the least.

We slept it. Went on hikes. Saw some wild animals. Played at the park. Ate way too much pasta and drank far too much wine. Little Bit was our weekend entertainment and she did not disappoint.

Our final evening, while laying in bed and recapping all that had occurred the past few days, Mr. Mister said “now THIS is what we were waiting for!” I asked him to explain and this was his response…

 “Your first semester of law school we kept saying we couldn’t wait until the semester was over so we could take a vacation. After your first year we couldn’t wait until we had Little Bit so all of the chaos, stress, and medical issues were all behind us. After we had her we couldn’t wait until you finished law school. When the end was nearing we were looking forward to you not working and only bar prepping. Once that began all we wanted was for it to end so we could see you immediately after work and you wouldn’t have any homework or have to hide yourself in the office to study.”

“But now that we are here, and I see my parents playing with Little Bit and how happy she is and how relaxed we all are, I didn’t realize it, but THIS is really what we have been waiting for! Just some down time with our family!

I couldn’t agree more! It was nice to step away from the fast city life and just enjoy.

While in school it felt like the end was never in sight. While doing bar prep it felt like the big day would never arrive. Now, here I am looking back on it all and, to be honest, it wasn’t so bad.

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Do What Works for You

Bar Pass

This is a post I have been wanting to write since I took the bar exam. However, the information contained in it would either be right or wrong depending on whether or not I passed. Since I did pass my state’s bar exam I feel like I can finally write this.

Going into bar prep a considerable amount of time Googling things like “how do I pass the bar exam?” and “tips and tricks to pass the bar.” I looked through various websites, talked to past bar sitters, and read numerous threads of chitchat to see which way was the best way to study for the bar. The answer is quite simple, it all depends on the person.

For any student studying for the bar exam my school offered us a “bar pass pod” which was basically a floor of empty offices to use as needed for studying. Every day when I walked in there I saw so many variations of people’s study habits. From the bar results and discussions I have had with fellow bar sitters I can give some insight into what may and may not work during your bar study.

WHAT WORKS (suggestions from three recent bar passers)

√ PACE YOURSELF

            The analogy is true- it’s a marathon, not a sprint. You will not be able to learn everything you need to know the last two weeks before the bar. Allow yourself enough time to review the information, process the information, and absorb the information. This occurs in various steps over quite a few weeks. So don’t try to cram all of your studying into the first couple weeks or the last couple weeks of bar prep. Spread it out over your allotted time and pace yourself in your studying.

√ FOLLOW THE PROGRAM

            Whether you sign up for a commercial bar prep program like BarBri or Kaplan or you structure your own study program, follow the program. I personally took BarBri and it felt like there were not enough hours in the day to get done what they threw at me. But I just trusted the process. There was a daily task list and a weekly task list. I did what I could in a day and what was left, I made sure to add it to my “weekly to do list.” Sundays were my lightest study days so whatever I couldn’t tackle during the week ended up on Sunday’s list. If Sunday evening came around and there were a few items left, I marked them for later review and told myself I would go back to them on a future date. There were some that I was able to complete and others that I was not. However, I did read and review the answers to the assignments I was not able to fully complete. Missing those couple of assignments did not turn out to be detrimental.

√ TRUST WHAT YOU KNOW

            If you rocked out in Torts during law school don’t spend too much of your study time focused on that area. Although we were told you don’t need your law school outlines to study from for the bar, my old outlines actually helped to refresh my memory on some topics. I spent minimal time on the topics I knew well (Constitutional Law, Civil Procedure, and Property) and focused more on the ones that were new to me (Commercial Paper and Trusts). I knew that I had a good outline in my memory of the topics I had already been tested on. I trusted that I knew what I needed to know from my previous exposure to the topic, the bar prep videos, and the various questions I was exposed to and moved on.

√ TAKE BREAKS

            Three of us took breaks religiously throughout the day. The one thing we all agreed on is to get away! Step away from your books and just stretch, get some fresh air, grab some ice water or a hot coffee and just leave your studying alone for 15 minutes. You will come back refreshed and more focused and able to absorb the information being thrown at you at 100 miles per hour. And when you feel your mid-afternoon exhaustion attacking, do it again! However, there comes a point where you need to know when enough is enough. See “lack of sleep” below.

√ USING SOMEONE ELSE’S OUTLINES*

            There is a split of opinion on this so it appears in both sections of What Works and What Does Not Work.

            I, personally, created my own outlines. I did this in three stages: a large comprehensive outline, condensed to a more minimal outline, and a final attack sheet with “need to knows” on it. Plus, for every attack sheet I had a medium sized post-it note with “things to remember.” These were things I saw repeated on the BarBri answers that seemed to gain more points.

            A friend of mine used only commercial outlines. Westlaw provided some and then he also purchased Lean Sheets. This worked for him. However, he did not create outlines during law school either, that is just not how he learned. However, he did say that he read the large BarBri outline book from front to back whereas I only used that large book to fill in gaps in my knowledge.

            Another friend of mine did a combination of both. She made her own outline and then used Lean Sheets in the final two weeks to study from. Because the Lean Sheets were pretty lean (he, he, he) in some topics, she found herself adding some notes here and there.

            So, whatever works best for you should be the route you take. But remember this is a learning process and I feel that part of the process is putting pen to paper (or fingers to keyboard) to help your memory retain some of the information.

 

WHAT DOES NOT WORK (by two recent bar sitters who failed to achieve passing scores)

√ LACK OF SLEEP

            Both admitted to burning the midnight oil. One was there every morning, Monday through Sunday, at 5 a.m.! This same person left every night at midnight. He admits that he was exhausted which probably led to poor study habits. Although he felt he was putting in the work, looking back he admits that he had caught himself going back and re-reading the same section a few times because his mind was so exhausted it was not keeping up with him.

He said he totally agrees with taking breaks, but know when to call it a night and go home to relax with some mindless TV and a good night sleep.

√ BAD EATING HABITS

            WE ALL DID THIS! It’s easy enough to get up from your desk, walk a few steps, and pick up some sugary snack provided to us on the snack table in our bar pass pod. Although there was fruit and granola, sometimes the Pop-Tart or bag of Skittles was just way easier.

In the first month of bar prep I studied at home. I got to take a lunch break and eat something from my own fridge and then take a long dinner break and cook my family dinner. I realized during that time period I was much more energetic and productive.

However, during the second half of my bar prep when I studied at school and hit the snack table hard, I noticed I was exhausted more easily and not nearly as productive.

Try to keep healthy and brain-boosting snacks on hand so you are tempted to visit the vending machine too often.

√ UNPROVEN STUDY HABITS

            Now is not the time to “try something new.” Use the tried and true study habits that worked for you in law school.

One woman stated she never outlined during law school and she did fine. However, during bar prep everyone she saw said that she should do outlines. So, in her quest to pass the bar she attempted to make outlines. She said this was to her detriment. She spent more time trying to figure out what a good outline was and how she was even supposed to study from one. She thinks the additional time and effort she put into creating outlines deterred her away from her actual studying which she feels contributed to her not passing.

√ USING SOMEONE ELSE’S OUTLINES*

            As mentioned above, this could go either way! A recent non-passer said they purchased the Lean Sheets and relied on these as a study aid. They did not create their own outlines and feels as though he should not have relied so heavily on these alone. If you choose to use a commercial outline, you will need to supplement it. These come to you bare boned. You need to fluff if up with things that are missing or things your don’t know already that the commercial outlines may assume you already know.

I could ramble on and on about stories from the front line of bar prep. However, I will leave you with these few tips above and let you get back to your studying.

Good luck, future bar passer!

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Tuesday’s Tangent

TANGENT TUESDAY

“Probably not.” This is my response to the persistent question I have been asked now a trillion times. “Can I get free legal advice from you now?”

First, I am not being rude. I simply just can’t give every person I know free “legal advice.” Building a book of business should be treated just as such, a business. While there are the occasional free consultations to get the ball rolling on a new business relationship I can’t just sit down with every acquaintance who asks. Plus, any firm I work for will probably want my acquiantance as a client not just a free consultation.

Second, I just don’t know the answer. Apparently the outside world believes law students leave law school knowing everything there is to know about every area of law. Sorry folks, that’s just not the case. We leave knowing how to read a case, synthesize information, and think critically. We do not know about every area that concerns the law. If we did, don’t you think we’d need a little more schooling?

Lastly, although I can give any person the low down on most issues of criminal prosecution in my own state, I won’t. As every law student knows the answer is “it depends” because each fact situation is different. So when an acquaintance comes calling for a recent arrest on an alleged crime I will point them to the directory of lawyers who will be willing to take their case…for a fee.

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And There It Was…

… my name!

Thursday while at work I was a big ball of stress. The impending release of the bar pass names was obviously weighing on me. Getting no work done, my boss suggested I take a half day and enjoy some time with my family and relax on Friday while I waited for the bar results to be posted.

I went home, napped, made dinner, played with Little Bit and tried (unsuccessfully) to keep the thought of the results being posted out of my head. Friday was not much better. I did menial things around the house and played and napped some more. From 3:00-4:00 the hour just stalled. It was as if time stood still. LONGEST. HOUR. OF. MY. LIFE.

But then there we were. Refreshing the page where the results were to be posted. Little Bit sitting on the couch in the office with Alex and Aldo trying to weasel their way up to the couch as well. Mr. Mister was in control of the mouse-clicking, refreshing  every second and I stood behind him, knees shaking, biting my nails, waiting for the link to appear. Mr. Mister was refreshing the screen so quickly he missed it but I saw the blue hyperlink appear. I screamed “there is it! Stop! Stop! Stop! Click here.” And I pointed out to him what he had overlooked.

The attachment opened and my heart quickened. My knees started to get a little weak and suddenly the sound of Little Bit’s animal noise toys was muted from my ears and all I heard was my own pounding heartbeat. And there it was, my name.

I passed the state bar exam! I was ecstatic! Elated! Happy! I jumped up and down and hugged my husband and cried knowing that the stress of law school was behind me and I only had the joy of starting a new career in front of me.

For those starting bar prep for the July bar, put in the study time. It doesn’t have to be excessive, but it should be quality. I hope you get the same excitement I did when you see your name on a pass list.

Pass

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Tuesday’s Tangent

TANGENT TUESDAY

I love accomplishments. I love having that satisfying feeling that I have achieved something. I love having that sense of fulfillment when I complete something. But I am not a bragger. When I achieved good grades (although some may say they were GREAT grades) I didn’t go running my mouth about them. I told my husband and left it at that. I even got a little embarrassed a few times when he passed along the information about my good grades to his parents.

So why in the hell does it bother me when other people brag about what they have accomplished?! Especially on social media?! I know some feel that it’s not “real” until you post it on Facebook. But I just can’t get beyond the fact that it bothers me so much. Of course I am proud of each of my friends who achieve good grades, win a case as a Rule 38 student, just got a call back for a possible job. I would love to hear all about it. I think what annoys me most is 1) the posting on Facebook of that accomplishment and 2) that fact that I didn’t need validation from anyone else so why would they?

I am sure it’s just me and my own inner-struggle with something? Maybe self-doubt? Maybe envy? Maybe jealousy? Maybe the thought that people don’t think I am intelligent since none of my academic achievements are posted on Facebook? I am not sure. Maybe it’s a sign that I need to delete my Facebook and not be so put off about others need to brag.

This post brought to you by the increasing number of graduation photos filling up my Facebook News Feed.

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Free Time

Free Time

Eight weeks have passed since I took the bar exam. As I mentioned before, I had a job to go back to. Some of the test takers had no job to go to and thus were stuck trying to determine how to kill time during the day. My biggest problem was what I would do to fill my evening hours.

For the past three years my evenings were filled with reading or studying. The past year added my maternal responsibilities to that list as well. Needless to say, the days were packed full of things I needed to do and not the things I wanted to do. With most of that behind me now (I guess my maternal responsibilities will never end, so I am told) people ask what I do with all of my “free time.” I found it very comical that compared to law school, having a husband, a child, and a full-time job equaled “free time.” But hey, I’ll take it. My evenings and weekends are mine again and here is how I have been filling my free time:

Reading for my own entertainment- There were so many books piling up on my night table and Kindle that I never had time to read while in law school. I have tackled a book a week and IT. FEELS. GREAT! There were some that became outdated such as What to Expect During Your Child’s First Year. Part of me is glad I missed the opportunity to read that one. Something tells me that if I were forewarned about some of the things Little Bit would surprise us with, I may have enrolled back in school for another degree to avoid them.
Reconnected with family and friends- I didn’t realize how much I missed my friends and family. All of them were very understanding of my absence from functions. But once I started attending more gatherings, I realized I missed the genuine laughter that I experience when I am with them. Add to that I get to see Little Bit play with her cousins and the children of some of my dear friends. I am glad I don’t have to miss that anymore.

Exercise! – Before law school started I challenged myself to run two half-marathons. Done! It was the best feeling completing those. I vowed that I would continue to run during law school as an outlet for all of the stress I would feel. Although I did well at first, as I took more classes, engaged in more associations, and took on more projects at work, something had to give. Unfortunately it was my exercise. Although I didn’t pack on much weight from the dreaded vending machines, I was not able to get right back to a good exercise routine after I gave birth nor after graduating since I had to go right into bar prep. As soon as I had a couple weeks to relax and de-stress from the huge accomplishment I had just achieved I got right back into the gym. I must say, I think cycling may be my new passion.

Job hunting- I have not hit this with the full force that others may have since I currently have a job in the legal field that I could obtain an attorney position if worse comes to worse. However, as bar results get closer I have started brushing up my resume, researching firms in the field I want to work, and have had the opportunity to take three meetings with different firms. But with no other extraordinary worries such as how I am going to pay my student loans or if I will have a job after all is said and done, job hunting has been a pretty stress free process so far. Hopefully my bar results prove favorable and I can ramp up on making the connections in the firms I want to be in.

Traveling- We missed out on so many vacation opportunities due to school and having a little one at home. We use to take annual vacations and some mini-vacations throughout the year. During law school, we only got one big trip to D.C. and New York in. Now that I have “free time,” we have a few trips planned and it was so nice not having to try to fit those in between school breaks, work requirements, and our parental responsibilities. Up next, California, Hawaii, Mexico, and a snow boarding trip of some sort.

Relaxing!- If nothing else, I like being able to jut relax with my little family on the weekends. Mr. Mister is stoked that he has his weekends free to make plans without having to arrange for a babysitter. I’m stoked that it’s currently patio weather were I live and I can enjoy a nice glass of Malbec sitting on our outdoor couch with no school books or study materials in front of me.

It’s the little things.

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Here Goes Nothing

The bar exam has arrived!
Perseverance

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Homestretch

So, here I am. I am in my LAST WEEK of bar prep. I swore I thought I had to be medicated last week. I almost called my doctor to make an appointment. NO JOKE! Anxiety is getting to me. Luckily, Mr. Mister forced me to take a half-day Sunday and made me call my girlfriends for a dinner date. It was just what the “doctor” ordered, a half a day away from everything bar related (although, we did have appetizers at a bar while waiting for our table). I am starting this last week with a feeling of rejuvenation.

Every day I walk into our “bar pass pod” (a study area dedicated to students in our school studying to take the bar) there are different sticky notes stuck to each door. I am not sure who writes them but I LOVE them! Today mine was especially motivational: If it doesn’t challenge you, it doesn’t change you.

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